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Hi all,

Lost about 15K due to rapid depreciation on my 2019 Ford Titanium but so did the 2019 Ford Sport which in the end costed me $4000 to sell the Titanium and buy the Sport (totally worth it in my opinion).

I bought the 2019 Sport with all options with 16K on the odometer for 21K. Let me just say, I am always looking forward to being on the road now. So much fun to drive.

As a owner of both here are my favorite likes over the Titanium in order...
Power, from 245 to 325 horse power & 380 torque.
All wheel drive. No torque steer.
Handling & Ride quality, absolutely huge improvement on both fronts due to active damping.
Brakes, huge difference in braking power.
Idling, you have no idea the car is even on unlike the 4 cylinder.
Electronics, including side sensors and self-parking.
Looks, far less plastic chrome + black grill + rear valance.
Seats, more support for fast turns.


I look forward to learning & contributing on this here forum.

-Hurley
 

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Welcome! We have a '14 SE and '15 Titanium as well in the family, and even after 3 years it still amazes me how different all 3 are to drive.
 

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Thanks so much for the welcome guys. Looking forward to future conversations.

So far my only Mod is the Steeda strut bar and I highly recommend it. Really improved the already great ride quality so much so I raised my tire pressures.

I plan to paint the brake calipers and install a Steeda rear sway bar next.
 

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Hi all,

Lost about 15K due to rapid depreciation on my 2019 Ford Titanium but so did the 2019 Ford Sport which in the end costed me $4000 to sell the Titanium and buy the Sport (totally worth it in my opinion).
I know this story.

This Thanksgiving, after finding out there were no 2020 FFS being made, I early returned my 2019 SE AWD 2.0L Lease, to buy one of the last Blue 2019 Fusion Sports.

Financially dumb, totally worth it.
 

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Ford has made some dumb financial decisions recently. They'll need another Government/taxpayer bailout to survive. I can't wait to see what FCA-Peugeot-Ford or VW-Ford has to offer in terms of cars in the near future.
 

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Ford has made some dumb financial decisions recently. They'll need another Government/taxpayer bailout to survive. I can't wait to see what FCA-Peugeot-Ford or VW-Ford has to offer in terms of cars in the near future.
Hi gang. Just as an FYI for others: Ford never took part in the government/taxpayer bailout like GM and Chrysler did. Ford mortgaged all their assets and came out of the financial crisis on their own. Not predicting what will happen in this crisis, just providing information on what did/did not happen previously.

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Hi gang. Just as an FYI for others: Ford never took part in the government/taxpayer bailout like GM and Chrysler did. Ford mortgaged all their assets and came out of the financial crisis on their own. Not predicting what will happen in this crisis, just providing information on what did/did not happen previously.

Good luck.
In 2009 they took about $6.5B in what I remember to be a DoE loan for making "fuel efficient" vehicles like the F150 EcoBoost. They had to eventually pay back that loan. It just wasn't labeled TARP bailout like GM received and eventually paid back. Call it what you want, Ford absolutely took taxpayer dollars along with mortgaging their assets. This time around they are losing cash fast and paying their execs more than the company is earning. Plus Corktown, the train station, the botched Explorer launch, and killing off its car production are not going to pay off.
 

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In 2009 they took about $6.5B in what I remember to be a DoE loan for making "fuel efficient" vehicles like the F150 EcoBoost. They had to eventually pay back that loan. It just wasn't labeled TARP bailout like GM received and eventually paid back. Call it what you want, Ford absolutely took taxpayer dollars along with mortgaging their assets. This time around they are losing cash fast and paying their execs more than the company is earning. Plus Corktown, the train station, the botched Explorer launch, and killing off its car production are not going to pay off.
Hi metroplex. You are mistaken and are conflating several different subjects, and the DoE "loan" as you describe it, was not bail out money. That was a loan/subsidy for developing fuel efficient vehicles and had nothing to do with the economic downturn or the Auto Industry bailout. Ford did not take government bail out money. That loan/subsidy was no more a "bailout" than a college loan/grant/subsidy to an individual is a "bailout".

Among other resources, see the Department of Energy website here: FORD
And an explanation of the DoE ATVM program: ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY VEHICLES MANUFACTURING LOAN PROGRAM
And here: Department of Energy finalizes $5.9 billion loan to Ford

It was a loan to upgrade plants with new technologies to increase fuel efficiency in order to meet government standards, not to survive/stay afloat (the definition of a "bailout"). It's not a matter of "call it what you want". It is a matter of call it what it was.

The Corktown, train station, botched Explorer/Aviator launches and killing car production are different subjects, and I would pretty much agree with you on most/all of those subjects. And I would add the Focus transmission debacle as another example.

In fact, I would 100% agree with you that killing car/sedan production was a big mistake, which will come back to haunt Ford/Lincoln. However, all of that has nothing to do with the subject of the 2008 economic collapse and subsequent government backed auto industry bailouts, which GM and Chrysler had to accept to survive, but Ford turned down.

Hope this makes my previous reply more understandable, as this information is easily researched and verifiable. Good luck.
 
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