[Oreo]

 

[metroplex]

Yeah that's like 580 hp but he's still running 12s from what I saw, maybe high 11s? There are cars heavier with less power running 11s

 

[Engineer]

@metroplex Torque management getting him you think?

 

[Oreo]

Yeah that's like 580 hp but he's still running 12s from what I saw, maybe high 11s? There are cars heavier with less power running 11s

Actually he ran a 11.76 @ 118.93. FYI it isn't TwinForce_Fusion...

 

[metroplex]

Actually he ran a 11.76 @ 118.93. FYI it isn't TwinForce_Fusion...

I wasn't following that thread,what mods did he have to get to 11.76?

 

[Hootushead]

Thanks

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Yes! Who? When? How... other than lager turbos?

 

[Oreo]

Sorry for delay in reply, been driving all day. This is Marcelino from FB group. He has Levels FMIC, UP downpipes, RMM. custom exhaust, hybrid MKZ turbos built by Hung Chou of Revolution Turbos and is custom tuned by James Gordon aka Tuning by James. This is before he installed the HPFP.

 

[metroplex]

The Fusion should be in the low 11s with that much power. I wonder if he has massive traction problems

 

[Oreo]

The Fusion should be in the low 11s with that much power. I wonder if he has massive traction problems

Yes James has been pretty creative with the traction issue and working on resolution.

 

[metroplex]

Yes James has been pretty creative with the traction issue and working on resolution.

255 drag radials.

 

[Hootushead]

Sorry for delay in reply, been driving all day. This is Marcelino from FB group. He has Levels FMIC, UP downpipes, RMM. custom exhaust, hybrid MKZ turbos built by Hung Chou of Revolution Turbos and is custom tuned by James Gordon aka Tuning by James. This is before he installed the HPFP.

Ahhh... should have guessed it was “the world’s fastest Fusion”. I’ve been following his progress on FB too.

 

[EddieEcoBoost]

The Fusion should be in the low 11s with that much power. I wonder if he has massive traction problems

Yup. Crappy transmission, crappy awd system, porky weight

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[Oreo]

255 drag radials.

Not sure if he is running drag radials yet. He did loose some unsprung weight changing wheels but can't remember what tires. Also in one of the conversation with the amount of HP/TQ he is running now 1st gear is useless so James has him setup for 2nd gear launches which has helped. But he has said there is more work to be done. Now with the installation of the pump there is more tune work to be done to take full advantage of it.

 

[metroplex]

Not sure if he is running drag radials yet. He did loose some unsprung weight changing wheels but can't remember what tires. Also in one of the conversation with the amount of HP/TQ he is running now 1st gear is useless so James has him setup for 2nd gear launches which has helped. But he has said there is more work to be done. Now with the installation of the pump there is more tune work to be done to take full advantage of it.

As a comparison the BMW X3 M Competition is 4600 lb and 503 hp, runs 11.6 in the 1/4 factory stock and apparently can take on the C8 Vette.

That ZF 8 speed has a 5.00 1st gear ratio and 3.15 final drive. Seems to launch fine on stock summer tires 255 front and 265 rear. I mapped out the X3s shift points and at WOT it would shift at the same MPH as the Fusion Sport and both would have the same number of shifts. That ZF does shift fast though so that's worth a few tenths.

 

[MY27FUSION]

He has 245/40/19 federal RS Pro street tires in the front only

 

[Titan80102]

As a comparison the BMW X3 M Competition is 4600 lb and 503 hp, runs 11.6 in the 1/4 factory stock and apparently can take on the C8 Vette.

That ZF 8 speed has a 5.00 1st gear ratio and 3.15 final drive. Seems to launch fine on stock summer tires 255 front and 265 rear. I mapped out the X3s shift points and at WOT it would shift at the same MPH as the Fusion Sport and both would have the same number of shifts. That ZF does shift fast though so that's worth a few tenths.

I wonder if swapping in Ford's new 8 speed auto from the Edge ST would help/be worth it.

 

[dtd]

I wonder if swapping in Ford's new 8 speed auto from the Edge ST would help/be worth it.

I wonder if swapping in Ford's new 8 speed auto from the Edge ST would help/be worth it.

I don't think it would do much of anything since the Edge ST is not really faster than the FFS. It may give a little boost but for all the work and money there are many less expensive upgrades that can be done which will yield more performance.

 

[OX1]

As a comparison the BMW X3 M Competition is 4600 lb and 503 hp, runs 11.6 in the 1/4 factory stock and apparently can take on the C8 Vette.

That ZF 8 speed has a 5.00 1st gear ratio and 3.15 final drive. Seems to launch fine on stock summer tires 255 front and 265 rear. I mapped out the X3s shift points and at WOT it would shift at the same MPH as the Fusion Sport and both would have the same number of shifts. That ZF does shift fast though so that's worth a few tenths.

Comparing an 85 thou, probably HP underrated ride, to our Sports??

 

[MY27FUSION]

Hootushead what gear is your dyno run ?

 

[LeVeL]

As a comparison the BMW X3 M Competition is 4600 lb and 503 hp, runs 11.6 in the 1/4 factory stock and apparently can take on the C8 Vette.

That ZF 8 speed has a 5.00 1st gear ratio and 3.15 final drive. Seems to launch fine on stock summer tires 255 front and 265 rear. I mapped out the X3s shift points and at WOT it would shift at the same MPH as the Fusion Sport and both would have the same number of shifts. That ZF does shift fast though so that's worth a few tenths.

That's not entirely accurate or fair. The X3MC is tremendously underrated from the factory - bone stock they make ~492whp.

So...
Marcelino: 496hp/482tq - [email protected]
X3MC: 492hp/446tq - [email protected]

Yes, there is a 400-500lbs difference but the BMW has the excellent ZF8 transmission and wider tires. It also starts at $80k before options.