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So we all know how powerful the Fusion Sport is and compared to the competition it's sitting at 50+ HP more than the Camry and Accord.

How much do you guys value that jump in power among all the other features available in this segment since to some, other features can be powerful enough to some people that it pushes this power increase lower down the scale of what's important.
 

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I find the Fusion Sport’s peak HP [ and particularly the TQ ] of particular interest as the engine is connected to AWD. And the weight appears to be reasonable. I am looking forward to reading independent tests of handling – as well as acceleration.
- Ray
TQ junkie . . .
 

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That's a good point and with that it can be said is how it delivers power on the lower end will be just as important since street performance is what we'll experience most and it is most rewarding.
 

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Yeah, it's more about the torque curve than it is about peak HP for me. With that twin turbo, torque should be great even at fairly low RPMs.
 

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Making it even better might be tuning brands that decide to take it another level and that will go a long way for those that like everything about the fusion but see a need for a bit more power to complete it.
 

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I think something to also keep in mind here is how ford chooses to gear the car. If they don't want it to run away from the SHO or mustang, they could gear it higher than nessary just to slow the 0-60 enough not to embarrass their other cars.

I hope they don't, but they could. With that said, currently it looks like final drive is actually LOWER in the AWD fusion 3.36 vs 3.21 behind the 2.0T a little quick math says with 3.36 diff, 4.58 first gear and 235/50 17 tires, it would be out of first gear by 30-31MPH

Looking forward to finding out!!
 

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Here are the numbers for the Ford Taurus SHO (Performance Pack):

Power: 365 hp @ 5500 rpm
Torque: 350 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
Curb weight: 4346 lb.
Zero to 60 mph: 5.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 103 mph

Based on Ford’s chosen marketing strategy (X more horsepower than competitors’ V6’s; even more than the BWM 340i, etc.) I would say the Fusion Sport had better be markedly faster than a V6 Honda Accord if they expect them to sell to customers like myself. Given that the Honda Accord V6 posts numbers that are very close to the much heavier Fusion Sport's cousin (the Edge Sport) my expectations are not at all unreasonable.

Honda Accord V6 Sedan
Power: 278 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 252 lb-ft @ 4900 rpm
Curb weight: 3552 lb
Zero to 60 mph: 5.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph


Ford Edge Sport AWD
Power: 315 hp @ 4750 rpm
Torque: 350 lb-ft @ 2750 rpm
Curb weight: 4437 lb.
Zero to 60 mph: 5.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.2 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.1 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 4.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.2 sec @ 98 mph

I think something to also keep in mind here is how ford chooses to gear the car. If they don't want it to run away from the SHO or mustang, they could gear it higher than nessary just to slow the 0-60 enough not to embarrass their other cars.

I hope they don't, but they could. With that said, currently it looks like final drive is actually LOWER in the AWD fusion 3.36 vs 3.21 behind the 2.0T a little quick math says with 3.36 diff, 4.58 first gear and 235/50 17 tires, it would be out of first gear by 30-31MPH

Looking forward to finding out!!
Here are the max speeds for the Performance Pack Taurus SHO:

 Top Speed 1st: 36 mph
 Top Speed 2nd: 56 mph
 Top Speed 3rd: 87 mph
 Top Speed 4th: 114 mph
 Top Speed 5th: 133 mph*
 Top Speed 6th: 133 mph*
*governor limited

Using the gear ratios from the Edge Sport (I am assuming it will be very, very close to what we see in the Fusion Sport) and the stock 235/40R19 tires (shifting at 6300rpm) we get the following:

 Top Speed 1st: 33 mph
 Top Speed 2nd: 51 mph
 Top Speed 3rd: 79 mph
 Top Speed 4th: 104 mph
 Top Speed 5th: 146 mph
 Top Speed 6th: XXX mph*
*likely governed based on OEM tires, etc.

Neutering the Fusion Sport is a horrible idea. But based on how disappointing the Focus RS numbers turned out given it's power/weight ratio, anything is possible..........can't have a mid-size family sedan with straight line performance in the same ballpark of a "Ford Performance" family vehicle.
 

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