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post #61 of 74 (permalink) Old 09-30-2019, 05:19 PM
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Saw that article too and went to the company site. Honestly there are already several companies doing the same thing to theses turbos. It's just our car's transmission can not handle that much power. There needs to a alternative to our PTU and Transmission in order to handle that much power. It would be nice though to get a pair like those slap them on and go all out crazy.

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So two weeks or more of MKZ turbos and no one has numbers yet, dyno or track?

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Saw that article too and went to the company site. Honestly there are already several companies doing the same thing to theses turbos. It's just our car's transmission can not handle that much power. There needs to a alternative to our PTU and Transmission in order to handle that much power. It would be nice though to get a pair like those slap them on and go all out crazy.
As long as your not abusive I think it will hold up fine. There are quite a few guys running upgraded turbo setups with no tranny or ptu issues. First point of failure seems to be front axle snapping from hard launching

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As long as your not abusive I think it will hold up fine. There are quite a few guys running upgraded turbo setups with no tranny or ptu issues. First point of failure seems to be front axle snapping from hard launching

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Yes, but I am talking about is you will not be able to get 500whp and 500TQ with our PTU and Transmission in regards to the article turbos. 400whp and about 450wTQ is going to be the max without catastrophic failure.

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The same transmission is in the Taurus SHO which seems to hold up to around 500/500 before it starts having problems. They don't seem to have the axle issues though.
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Yes, but I am talking about is you will not be able to get 500whp and 500TQ with our PTU and Transmission in regards to the article turbos. 400whp and about 450wTQ is going to be the max without catastrophic failure.
Based on what information? There are a couple of SHO guys pushing around 500whp. Same transmissions as us and same PTU. Sure they have run into some issues, but thats from pushing them at the drag strip. Otherwise from what i understand they daily drive those cars

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Yes, but I am talking about is you will not be able to get 500whp and 500TQ with our PTU and Transmission in regards to the article turbos. 400whp and about 450wTQ is going to be the max without catastrophic failure.
I don't believe I have heard of a single catastrophic failure of our PTU or transmission to date.
Somebody pooched their drive train by excessive wheel hop causing the axle to break and it caused case damage to the PTU.

The same transmission and PTU are used on the MKZ with 400 HP and 400 LBS torque. Given a guestimated 20-30% safety margin.
I think we should all be pretty safe with the numbers we can get with all the available mods to date.

Now excessively high RPM launches with excessive axle hop... can break something.
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I don't believe I have heard of a single catastrophic failure of our PTU or transmission to date.
Somebody pooched their drive train by excessive wheel hop causing the axle to break and it caused case damage to the PTU.

My transmission had a catastrophic failure: the center and forward planetary assemblies, direct and overdrive clutches burnt and coming apart. multiple sticking valves in main control, severe contamination of solenoid body. And my car has never been raced on a track,just DD and red light to red light, but like I said in my transmission thread, I could have had a defective transmission like I did with the engine.





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My transmission had a catastrophic failure: the center and forward planetary assemblies, direct and overdrive clutches burnt and coming apart. multiple sticking valves in main control, severe contamination of solenoid body. And my car has never been raced on a track,just DD and red light to red light, but like I said in my transmission thread, I could have had a defective transmission like I did with the engine.





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Sorry to hear that, but that type of failure seems to be the exception and not the norm. Especially since you were not abusing the transmission like you said. Most likely you had a defective unit unfortunately which can happen in any car.

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We are getting 40hp from MKZ turbos meanwhile those upgraded F150 turbos adding 240hp/170tq at the wheels. This is why I'm probably not going to bother with mkz turbos. Someone needs to just go the hard route with custom turbos. Has anyone tried to fit a 65 trim? If its not possible stage 2 might not be bad either. What are mkz sizes?

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